Deconstructing Barry

So… Some belated congratulations are in order. Congrats to Tom Glavine for becoming the 23rd pitcher to win 300 games. Congrats to Alex Rodriguez for becoming the youngest player to hit 500 home runs. And congrats to Barry Bonds for tying Hank Aaron with 755 career home runs.

There. I said it.

See, as hard as it is to believe, I recently read something interesting at ESPN.com. Specifically, this exchange between Jim Capel, Rob Neyer, and Jayson Stark titled “Who’s The Greatest Slugger Ever?”

While in the end I’m on the side of Ruth, both because of the points Neyer makes in the thread, and the little fact that Ruth still has the highest career adjusted OPS+ of all time, and while everything I’ve read tells me Barry Bonds most certainly isn’t the type of person I’d want to have a beer with, I think the defense of Bonds in the thread has a lot of merit to it.

First, with or without steroids, Bonds has been a supremely talented baseball player. Stark quotes a Giants fan friend as saying “that even if you believe he cheated, he was the best player in baseball before he cheated and the best player in baseball after he cheated.” Let’s also keep in mind that lots of people were “cheating” (like it or not, under the rules of baseball at the time, what the steroid users were doing wasn’t actually cheating), but they all didn’t put up one ridiculous season after another like Bonds did.

Yes, surely Bonds’ numbers were elevated by steroids, but at the same time they were also likely depressed by steroid-enhanced pitchers. We of course can’t know for sure what net effect steroids had on the league, but the best analysis I’m aware of, from a chapter in the Baseball Prospectus team’s “Baseball Between The Numbers”, says that the answer is very likely “not much”. But what differences are “fair” between the eras anyway? Are steroids less fair than amphetamines, which had been used in baseball since WWII? Are they less fair than players not having to compete against the best minority players pre-Jackie Robinson? Are they less fair than the improved medical procedures and training regimens that modern-day players have available? As Capel writes, “If people can accept numbers from an era in which blacks and Hispanics were banned from the game, if they can accept numbers from an era when amphetamines were rampant, then why can’t they just accept the new numbers?”

While we wish and hope for some platonic ideal of baseball “fairness” from which to judge from, it doesn’t exist. Even if to you steroids is the cardinal sin of baseball, you still can’t escape the fact than in an era where players were popping them like candy, Bonds still put up crazy numbers even compared to the rest of them.

None of this is to portray Bonds as some sort of martyr. He’s got his millions, he’s going to be just fine, believe me. He’s going to have the record whether people like it or not. And while you’re of course still free to not like him as a person (heck, I sure don’t), don’t tell me the record is somehow less “legitimate” than any other baseball record, and don’t tell me that he doesn’t deserve a spot in the Hall of Fame.

01
Matt
August 7th, 2007 10:56 pm

ah, finally, 756. Now I can stop paying attention to all this crap.

Better keep hitting them, Lamar. A-Rod (that damn slacker) is a-comin!

02
Matt
August 7th, 2007 11:20 pm

hmm… I made a comment, but Charlie ate it, clearly.

anyway, now that 756 has been hit, I can finally stop paying attention to the Giants.

Enjoy it while you can, Barry. A-Rod (that Damned Slacker!) is coming for your record!

03
August 8th, 2007 1:49 am

So the question becomes, where do you stand on Rafael Palmeiro?

04
August 8th, 2007 9:09 am

Matt’s right of course, A-Rod’s going to render Bonds’ record moot barring some terrible injury. While this record will be seen as “legitimate” since A-Rod has no taint of steroids, the NYC media will still hate him because he’s not a “true Yankee” and “chokes” or some other similar nonsense.

Palmerio… Only the fourth player in history to get both 500 HR and 3000 hits? Let him in. He had a positive test after the rules changed, and got suspended as required, but this doesn’t invalidate his career.

05
August 8th, 2007 9:48 am

This is hard to say… and I still hate Barry Bonds… but this post actually changed my mind. I still think he’s a major douchebag and a horse’s ass, but the points about all eras having their problems and there really being no baseline of “fair”.. it’s kinda hard to say he cheated.

Wow. In the end my biggest problem about the whole steroid issue is with Selig and the Players Union for ignoring the problem for so damn long and pretending it would just go away.

06
LaFollette
August 8th, 2007 9:52 am

All of these arguments have some merit. Bonds was a sure-fire Hall-of-Famer before he ever touched the steroids. He set the record in an era when many of his top competitors were also juiced. Plenty of other baseball record-holders (Cy Young, Rogers Hornsby, etc.) benefited from circumstances that will never be seen again.

But I can’t get past the simplest argument of all. Even if Bonds never broke MLB rules, he almost certainly broke the law. And while many of his peers were juiced, some weren’t. The only slugger who truly rivaled Bonds in the prime of their careers, Ken Griffey Jr., reached most of the early milestones faster before the natural ravages of age and injury took their toll on his abilities.

The primary difference between Barry Bonds’ 756 home runs and the 589 home runs that Ken Griffey has hit in 3 fewer seasons is not talent, consistency, or natural durability. It was BALCO Labs. And that is why I don’t think anyone outside of the Bonds family should be celebrating this milestone.

And I tip my hat to the Nats for winning the baseball game played in San Francisco last night, by a score of 8-6.

07
August 8th, 2007 10:02 pm

Using Griffey’s a bad example.

You’re trying to say that the fact that he didn’t play in 130 games in a season from 2000-06 (missing over HALF the seasons of 2002-04 along the way) somehow DIDN’T affect his home run total? That’s crazy.

If Griffey had been even REASONABLY healthy and kept himself to one or two major injuries instead of five, he would easily be over 700 home runs at this point.

08
LaFollette
August 9th, 2007 3:26 pm

Mike, the cocktail of anabolic steroids and HGH that Bonds used helps improve recovery time from fatigue and injury. That’s why pitchers use the stuff, even though it doesn’t really help much with pitch speed.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/baseball/222726_roids04.html

There’s simply no telling how Griffey and Bonds’ careers would have progressed if neither one of them, or both of them, were juiced. You can’t just say “it’s the steroid era and numbers were inflated.” Not everyone was using. And the players with the integrity to stay clean were put at a disadvantage on multiple levels.

09
August 10th, 2007 12:38 am

Ah. Gotcha.

Mostly I’m bitter that no one wanted to help me mock Kwame Brown.

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